Re: pipes Oct 3, 2004 21:05:56 GMT -5 Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostMemberGive GiftBack to Top Post by Max on Oct 3, 2004 21:05:56 GMT -5 well, lrd is expensive but if you can get a used one for 150 your good but toomey is good but loud but no matter what pipe you get it will be louder